Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Brandon Dement » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:29 pm

Michael Brown wrote:Another scenario

If you are off work ,off the clock, and off the job site but you get caught speeding in your personal truck and get a ticket.Now the next morning your job fines you and suspends you without pay for something that doesn't involve them. Now is this right, No it's not.

Most companies will fine you, or punish you in some way for this if you're insured by them to drive company vehicles. Points against you cost them more to insure you. Anytime you hurt someone else with your actions you should be held responsible.[/quote]


Yes if you are insured by them to drive their company trucks and suck then yes. But when it just affects you and they do this it not okay.

All this rule is, that folks get butt hurt over someone hunting in spot and they couldn't catch them or the proper arthorities didn't do anything so they want Pkc to do something when it shouldn't involve them.

What do they do if this happens when a Pkc major event isn't being held and someone hunts a spot or poaches. These things happen year around not just at Pkc major events. Now I will say it increases at these times but it happens all the time.

A useless rule that will be hard to prove someone is doing.

What if someone gets caught a week before a hunt and then doesn't show up to the hunt cause they were just there hunting to be hunting. How can Pkc fine and suspend them then.
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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Sonny Phipps » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:47 pm

Michael Rosamond wrote:There is nothing saying you cant pleasure hunt, its just saying if you get caught doing it in a place without permission you are in trouble. Makes great sense, only problem I have is how vague it is. I ask what they consider proof and my question was ignored. Someone ask when its in effect and all we get is during or "around" the time of the event. When is "AROUND" the event and is so and so saying someone went back to his spot proof? I'm not trying to be a pain but vague answers just leads to more questions.


I read it to say "pleasure hunting" it doesnt say you can do it with permission
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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Michael Q Carder » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:40 pm

Jerry Moll wrote:In the past there has been some issues with members disrespecting the guides that provided them with a place to hunt. Some have done this by returning to the guide's hunting spots without their permission and without a license. Other times members from out of state have turned loose wherever they wanted without permission. This policy is intended to reduce some of these negative issues.



So why not state Returning to or hunting without permission. Instead of basically something else?
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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Brandon Glass » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:03 pm

I understand and completely agree, but what kind of fine or penalty will the guide get that doesn't have permission to hunt where they guide you? I've had this happen several times at major events even had a pistol pulled on me at a pro hunt last year!
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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Tony Dominguez » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:39 pm

What's next? If you drink a beer in applebees at lunch time with your meal before you go enter at the super stakes or world hunt you'll get barred too? This rule is fine with me, I've got plenty of places I have permission to hunt with great guys & I don't hunt with a gun 80% of the time. So I think all that's required now is out of state small game license
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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Michael Brown » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:26 pm

Follow the laws of the state, and you won't have any problem guys! This isn't too hard to understand...

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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Kevin Dinkins » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:31 pm

If someone goes back to my woods without at least asking me first and I catch them we gonna settle it right then ,no need in involving pkc we grown men act like it

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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Brandon Dement » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:45 pm

Kevin Dinkins wrote:If someone goes back to my woods without at least asking me first and I catch them we gonna settle it right then ,no need in involving pkc we grown men act like it


That's they way it should be.
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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Brandon Dement » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:02 pm

Michael Brown wrote:Follow the laws of the state, and you won't have any problem guys! This isn't too hard to understand...



Got no problem with that. The problem I'm having is Pkc getting involved when it's not during hunt.

When your signed up or on a Pkc hunt then it's part of a Pkc problem.when your on your own time no need for them to be part of it or get involved in anyway.
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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Michael Brown » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:14 pm

Brandon Dement wrote:
Michael Brown wrote:Follow the laws of the state, and you won't have any problem guys! This isn't too hard to understand...



Got no problem with that. The problem I'm having is Pkc getting involved when it's not during hunt.

When your signed up or on a Pkc hunt then it's part of a Pkc problem.when your on your own time no need for them to be part of it or get involved in anyway.
. I think you're looking at this all wrong! I think it's disastrous to our sport to think like you're thinking. If you come to Indiana from Texas to hunt, and you're caught breaking the law the question will be asked of you "Why are you in Indiana, and this far from home" and you'll tell them you're there to coonhunt. This big coonhunt is going on, and you think for a single second that law enforcement, and game wardens won't put that in their report? Their report will say "Due to the PKC world hunt being here it's brought in a lot of out of state hunters, and they are breaking the law, and we must hold PKC accountable for this, because if not for this big hunt being in town we wouldn't be having to deal with this."

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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Joe Wilbanks » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:27 pm

Its a good rule ,only those who break the law and get caught will get punished , so why worry about it, Of coarse there are those like at the labor day classic I attended a few years ago ,a group would get together after the hunt and go and kill 2 or 3 coons , heck I only saw 2 coons there the whole week wonder why. I have also seen a lot of pot smoking and liquor drinking at the last few big hunts I went too but it did not surprise me.

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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Michael Brown » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:29 pm

I'm friends with game wardens, and several sheriff deputies in my county, and when there's a big hunt in town they know. They know whether it's PKC, UKC, or other, and they hold it against the organization when hunters tear up hotel rooms, let their dogs defecate on the bed, pee on the dresser, and when hunters trespass, and take game out of season without proper licensing. Good job PKC for doing this, and hopefully we can explain this to those against this in a way for them to clearly understand how foolish they are to be against this.

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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Billy J. Beckham » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:37 pm

Michael Brown wrote:Follow the laws of the state, and you won't have any problem guys! This isn't too hard to understand...



Some think they are above it, same ones think having permission means not getting run out or caught. If you don't know who owns it and where he lives you don't have permission or just because a local took you there once don't make it our new kill zone.

learned this lesson the hard way.
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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Michael Brown » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:51 pm

Billy J. Beckham wrote:
Michael Brown wrote:Follow the laws of the state, and you won't have any problem guys! This isn't too hard to understand...



Some think they are above it, same ones think having permission means not getting run out or caught. If you don't know who owns it and where he lives you don't have permission or just because a local took you there once don't make it our new kill zone.

learned this lesson the hard way.

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Re: Policy Notice: Pleasure Hunting At PKC Major Event Locations

Postby Michael Brown » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:53 pm

Michael Brown wrote:
Billy J. Beckham wrote:
Michael Brown wrote:Follow the laws of the state, and you won't have any problem guys! This isn't too hard to understand...



Some think they are above it, same ones think having permission means not getting run out or caught. If you don't know who owns it and where he lives you don't have permission or just because a local took you there once don't make it our new kill zone.

learned this lesson the hard way.

You got that right Billy! I wish everyone thought like you!


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