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Re: Question!!!

Postby Michael Brown » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:55 pm

Guys, ya'll all wait here, me and the judge going to walk over here for five minutes to get the fifteen off that dog laying at your feet. Smh... If the dog didn't hunt for fifteen minutes he's scratched... Seems pretty dang simple

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Re: Question!!!

Postby Brandon Glass » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:11 pm

Michael Brown wrote:Guys, ya'll all wait here, me and the judge going to walk over here for five minutes to get the fifteen off that dog laying at your feet. Smh... If the dog didn't hunt for fifteen minutes he's scratched... Seems pretty dang simple


It's odvious you have no clue what your talking about.
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Re: Question!!!

Postby Ashley Guthrie » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:21 pm

Brandon Glass wrote:
Michael Brown wrote:Guys, ya'll all wait here, me and the judge going to walk over here for five minutes to get the fifteen off that dog laying at your feet. Smh... If the dog didn't hunt for fifteen minutes he's scratched... Seems pretty dang simple


It's odvious you have no clue what your talking about.



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Re: Question!!!

Postby Trey Perrin » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:42 pm

I wasn't at this pro hunt. But it likes I keep saying there are not enough qualified non hunting judges at the pro hunts. I have said this time and time again.
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Re: Question!!!

Postby Doug Blackwell » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:33 pm

Lol boys the dang dog quit that's why he lost plain and simple... Plus if it makes ya feel any better he was beat anyway little money was setting across the river with another one up a bush it is what it is the dog dropped the ball period..

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Re: Question!!!

Postby Michael Brown » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:35 pm

Brandon, you take your typical approach, and attack the person, and not the point made. I'm quite ok with that, and expected it from you. No biggie. I know nothing about this situation, but if you can't trust others out there to judge things right, and especially panel members then we're screwed. If you send a backup guide with another cast member to handle his dog then how can he minus the dog for two minutes, or if he was off the tree by the logic being used in these comments? I don't even know who this happened to, but if the dang dog didn't hunt for fifteen minutes he's scratched. Take your lumps, and quit trying to use technicalities to circumvent he rules. If this comment don't apply to this scenario then it's free, and I won't charge ya....

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Re: Question!!!

Postby Zach Nolen » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:47 pm

Doug Blackwell wrote:Lol boys the dang dog quit that's why he lost plain and simple... Plus if it makes ya feel any better he was beat anyway little money was setting across the river with another one up a bush it is what it is the dog dropped the ball period..


If the dog was hunting or not isn't the real issue here. The question is whether or not a walking panel has the authority to ENFORCE rules. My understanding is that the panel only has the authority to INTERPRET the rules when there is a disagreement. Not sure why the panel and judge were separated to begin with.
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Re: Question!!!

Postby Dylan Hovey » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:46 pm

If a member of the panel can run the two on a dog while away from the rest of the cast why can't one run the time on a non-working dog? I need more details because I can't figure why the panel wasn't with the judge in the first place :shock:
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Re: Question!!!

Postby Joey Craver » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:49 pm

Im sure that the panel member was separated from the case because he was told to walk with another handler to go handle a dog treed in. Ive seen cases in a non hunting judge cast that the judge tell a walk a long (in my case it was a guide) to go with me and handle my dog and if he quits treeing run the two or if he isn't treed judge him and go from there. Really no difference in this case is there?
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Re: Question!!!

Postby Robert Anderson » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:52 pm

If you don't hunt for 15 mins you get put in the truck plain and simple I don't know why everybody is on here fussing about that!!!! :roll:

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Re: Question!!!

Postby Trey Perrin » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:57 pm

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Re: Question!!!

Postby Dylan Hovey » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:59 pm

Joey Craver wrote:Im sure that the panel member was separated from the case because he was told to walk with another handler to go handle a dog treed in. Ive seen cases in a non hunting judge cast that the judge tell a walk a long (in my case it was a guide) to go with me and handle my dog and if he quits treeing run the two or if he isn't treed judge him and go from there. Really no difference in this case is there?


Right. But part of the panel should be with the judge or at other trees waiting to be scored. Something weird here for sure.
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Re: Question!!!

Postby Steve Yant » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:59 pm

Panel should be with judge at all times and like I said before all they are out there for is if there is a question .Sometimes judges and panels take the easy way out an this is where alot of problems occur.
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Re: Question!!!

Postby Trey Perrin » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:35 pm

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Re: Question!!!

Postby Michael Brown » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:00 pm

Dog quit, and the right dog won... That's all we're hunting for, and trying to do, and rule #20 is what it sounds like was used. They used the best judgment they had, and if the right dog won that's all that matters. Beating this dead horse is doing a disservice to this sport, and trying to reward a dog that didn't deserve the win based on a technicality is crap. If a panel member can't hold more than one role on a cast than that's pretty pitiful. Please don't take this as an attack on anyone, and I'm only offering my two sense.


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