Proposal To Eliminate "Leash-Lock" In 90-Min Elimination Hunts

[Ryan Cecil]

YESSS!!!! TREEING a coon should be worth more than just barking dog chasing!!! 125 treeee

[Patrick Stewart]

No Leash lock, and Move UP First Tree to 125. Treeing a Coon Should be Worth More..

[Shane Cannon]

Pros and Cons my 2 cents:

I like the part of removing the leash lock, but not for the covering dogs that just runs tree to tree and had nothing to do with treeing the coon. So let’s say dog A strikes for 75 and trees for 100, dog B strikes for 100 and is still trailing while scoring dog A tree, dog B trees 75 yds away and dog A coon is found and recast within 30 seconds of dog B called treed. A is cast runs straight to Dog B and had absolutely nothing to do with working the coon and gets points for it for. In some 1 hr hunts that’s the end of your hunt. Several different scenarios we could play out. I think if dog is recast with other dogs already treed and that dog covers he shouldn’t receive any points for something he or she didn’t work for, if said dog goes on and trees a separate tree then game on, I don’t think it’s fair for a dog to stay leash locked but it should go find it’s own coon or put in with dogs that may still be working track where the dog has at least had to work for it. The 125 Tree Rule doesn’t concern me 1 way or the other with the time breakdown on the tree, there is guys that will tree their dog already for 1st when the dog isn’t even at the tree yet but swear up and down they heard it, and low and behold most times while trying to dispute the guy there is ole spot now barking treed and handler then says see there he is...... hope this somewhat makes sense

[Billy Carter]

Move first tree to 125 and I got a feeling a lot of us would get off the couch. I know I would.

[Brandon Glass]

Remove the leash lock! When mine babbles for 100 and trees for 125 don’t cry when I’m sitting at 225 + and your still running a track I don’t wanna here no complaining.

[Michael Brown]

Remove the leash lock! When mine babbles for 100 and trees for 125 don’t cry when I’m sitting at 225 + and your still running a track I don’t wanna here no complaining.

You do that, and you deserve the win!

[Josh Michaelis]

We have a countdown. No sense in making it 125.

[Ryan Cecil]

So a dog leaves babbling get 100 Strike gets treed with 4 minutes 50 seconds gone on tres get 125 plus dog strikes for 25 clearly trees the coon gets 125.... yes tire breaker goes to the most tree points but no WAY they should be even close in score!!!

[Bruce Conkey]

I know we are focused on the "Leash Lock" rule and many are in agreement. The Proposal is for 90 min hunts. I think it is works well for the one hour hunts also. In all honesty, it should be changed for all PKC hunts.

[Brad McDaniel]

I am going to be very interested in hearing any arguments FOR the leash lock rule!!!

IMO the only reason some of these other KC's have gotten ANY traction is a few rules like this that real comp coonhunters like!! Its high time the BEST KC has the best rules.

As for the babbling deal, it has been beat to death and as I can see it there is no magic fix there except for making 1st Tree more valuable than 1st Strike.

And as for the Salem area folks that make these hunts happen, all I can say is God Bless them!! Anyone who has never had to put on an event of the size of one of these (let alone 3 per year) has no idea the Herculean effort that entails!

[John Lively]

Why not just everybody STRIKE for the same and move the TREE points to 125 and leave the count down the same and DO AWAY WITH THE LEASH LOCK RULE.Then you do away with the BABBLING DOGS.

[Troy Floyd]

Could not have said it better John.

[Joe Wilbanks]

Yea and do away with the training collar rule or change it somehow so that mine can have his on and I will come to the labor day and some big hunts , That was a bs change and they have never been a problem with them for years ,

[Josh Michaelis]

So a dog leaves babbling get 100 Strike gets treed with 4 minutes 50 seconds gone on tres get 125 plus dog strikes for 25 clearly trees the coon gets 125.... yes tire breaker goes to the most tree points but no WAY they should be even close in score!!!

Babbling dogs that tree for 25 dont win anything.

It doesnt matter how close they are. The dog that trees the most coons wins in PKC a VAST majority of the time. Why change strike and tree points.

[John Granberry]

Ok guys I want to explain my point so maybe some of you can understand. For years we have had 2 hr casts and that is the way I prefer it to be but, for reasons that are out of anyone's control (yours and mine) we ha e a 90 min hunt. With that being said I have no problem with an opened mouth dog. The problem I do have is that in most cases that type of dog that does much winning is gonna tree 2 coons per cast. When you take 30 min away from a dog that doesn't open as much you drastically reduce his chances of being able to tree his 3rd coon that it is gonna take to be able to compete. That's all I want to be able to do is compete with those opend mouth dogs. By the way anyone that thinks these opened mouth dogs strike for 100 and tree for 25 well that is far from the truth. Most of the time they are deep, alone, and with a coon. As for striking in at the same points, cant do that because of too many ties. And that changing tree values well that is not right either because our point system is designed to work in favor of the dog and his strengths whether it be striking or treeing. The main reason for the no leash lock rule is just to level the playing field for all types of hounds. I just want to compete and I know that all of you do too! I wish with everything in me that it could've stayed at 2 hrs and no rule changes I've been hunting pkc hunts for 22yrs and the rules were the best in the business exactly the way they were but when you change the hunting time it is a game changer. One thing is for sure if the rule doesn't change I'll be hunting in PKC hunts just the same. I may be completely wrong and if I am then that's what I'll be. I was just trying to come up with a solution for a potential problem